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jean-luc picard
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"temporary enjoyment of sin?"....why does it have to be temporary??
by oompa ini just read this phrase on a thread about the 7-15 wt and how shunning of family is so important....it just made me laugh.....some sins feel so damm good....so why do they have to be temporary?.....i am starting a revolt....we need permanent enjoyment of sin!!!!!!
!.....hahah....see i made myself laugh....needed that......oompa.
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This Years Memeorial and MY heartbreak
by PSacramento inso...this years memorial came and went.. on saturday my mom called to invite my wife, myself and my two little girls to the memorial on sunday, i said thank you but said that we won't be going.. on sunday my older sister called inviting us also.. we didn't go, since my eldest daughter asked about it, i explaine dit to her and asked my wife and her if they wanted to do it at home and they said yes.. so after dinner, we all partook of our lord's sacrifice and i explained to my daughters how the taking in of christ's body and blood is symbolic for become one with christ and god.. we always remember christ and his sacrifice and last meal whenever we eat and "say grace" but, becuase of the whoel memorial meal thing, we decided to do a little more.. i read from luke and john.. it was very nice, very special.. then this morning at 8:30 am my mom calls and reams me for 40 min over the phone.. why anyone would think that i or anyone else would want to be a part of an organization that fills people with som much venom and spit, is beyond me.. she basically said that she gives up on me, that i am taken by satan, that satan is working through me and leading me and tha her heart is borken for my little girls.. my mother.... my heart is broken, there is a pain in my gut....
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jean-luc picard
You mustn't turn your back on them. However they may turn their back on you.
That is the difference between the Borg psuedo christians and us......unfortunately.
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This Years Memeorial and MY heartbreak
by PSacramento inso...this years memorial came and went.. on saturday my mom called to invite my wife, myself and my two little girls to the memorial on sunday, i said thank you but said that we won't be going.. on sunday my older sister called inviting us also.. we didn't go, since my eldest daughter asked about it, i explaine dit to her and asked my wife and her if they wanted to do it at home and they said yes.. so after dinner, we all partook of our lord's sacrifice and i explained to my daughters how the taking in of christ's body and blood is symbolic for become one with christ and god.. we always remember christ and his sacrifice and last meal whenever we eat and "say grace" but, becuase of the whoel memorial meal thing, we decided to do a little more.. i read from luke and john.. it was very nice, very special.. then this morning at 8:30 am my mom calls and reams me for 40 min over the phone.. why anyone would think that i or anyone else would want to be a part of an organization that fills people with som much venom and spit, is beyond me.. she basically said that she gives up on me, that i am taken by satan, that satan is working through me and leading me and tha her heart is borken for my little girls.. my mother.... my heart is broken, there is a pain in my gut....
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jean-luc picard
I also have had the:
"your breaking my heart...."
I cry and cry...." etc
from my mother.
This has made me feel guilty in the past, because, being normal, I dont want to hurt my mother.
I am just starting to come to terms with the fact that I must give up on her.
She cannot hold a different view from the Borg. Its too late for her.
And there is no way on this earth that I will put a foot inside a KH again, for anything.
So its an impasse. It is very sad, but I cannot win her from them, and so I must go on without her.
I think it is the same for you. Its just hard accepting it.
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I've been sad all my life since my parents got into the JW's
by Star tiger inthese evil manipulative b*****s have ruined any normal life i could have had, are there any other people that have shared the same experience, my wife does not understand as she has had nothing to do with this evil cult, i welcome your comments!!
thankfully my wife puts up with me but she will never understand!!!.
star tiger.
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jean-luc picard
Hello star tiger.
My wife is similar to yours, in that she can never fully understand the effect that it still has on me, and that dispite 15 years on the outside.
That is why I joined this forum, which helps me to rationalise certain things ( relatives still in etc) and that in turn has helped with my wife. I can spout off here, instead of to her.
On the practical side, maybe certain books or videos which explain the effects of cults on people may help her to understand better.
Good luck with your struggle.
As others have said: you're not alone.
jlp
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How many received the memorial invitation?
by IMHO inhow well is this territory being covered?.
how many on here (active jws excluded) received an invitation?.
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jean-luc picard
None for me, but theres still time
They forgot last year too.
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jean-luc picard
An expression comes very often to mind now:
" In the last days ...... "having no natural affection".
It is not natural to act the way they do. It is rather jdubs who have no natural affection.
As you so rightly said: you can see the uneasyness and even the contempt and hatred.
None of that is normal. They must feel really bad inside.
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How many times has the end of the world been prophesied?
by jean-luc picard ini found this page very informative.. .
i dont know if it has already been posted.. .
http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrl2.htm.
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jean-luc picard
I found this page very informative.
I dont know if it has already been posted.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrl2.htm
Our JW friends are right there near the bottom of the page.
Follow the links too like:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/witness8.htm
and learn the doctrine of TEOTWAWKI
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'necessary family business'...just what is it?
by Aussie Oz in(prompted in part by the post on the latest wt reinforcing shunning).. say a child has occasional, not regular, contact with a d/f parent.
the child later gets married, is inviting the parent seen as ''necessary family business''?.
if a wedding is not, then what is?.
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jean-luc picard
Sorry, helping her.
I must learn how to edit posts.
jlp
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'necessary family business'...just what is it?
by Aussie Oz in(prompted in part by the post on the latest wt reinforcing shunning).. say a child has occasional, not regular, contact with a d/f parent.
the child later gets married, is inviting the parent seen as ''necessary family business''?.
if a wedding is not, then what is?.
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jean-luc picard
I think that it would not be seen as "necessary".
I have always understood it to mean rhings like
If a person becomes serously ill, has an accident etc.
Ironically, Jws are " the only true Christians".
but, if a mother is in need, then, all of a sudden, its the "scriptural" responsability of the disfellowshipped child to care for her, rather than her " christian" " brothers and sisters".
Then his hemping her becomes "necessary family business.
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Reinstatement policy...anyone who knows please comment.
by cyberjesus inok, here is the question.. if a dfd person shows to a kh of congregation x and starts attending the meetings and talks to the elders and tells them he has been attending the meetings for a year in congregation y. how will the elders in cong y verify that?
would they need a letter, a phone call?
will they check with the branch?
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jean-luc picard
You have a pm.